亚当·莫塞里表示,Instagram员工限制了他接触青少年安全数据,这对他来说“闻所未闻”

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Instagram负责人亚当·莫塞里于周二在Meta公司最新一起关于社交媒体成瘾与儿童隐私的诉讼中出庭作证。庭审期间,莫塞里表示,当他得知公司律师曾指示Instagram员工“限制”向其提交的某些青少年安全数据时,他感到“非常意外”。莫塞里是这起备受关注的诉讼中首位出庭作证的Meta高管。
这起诉讼由美国多个州的检察长联合提起,指控Meta公司故意让青少年“上瘾”,尽管其内部研究已表明旗下应用对年轻用户造成了伤害。庭审中曝光的一份2023年内部演示文稿显示,涉及自杀、自残和饮食障碍的内容在青少年用户中的受众规模是成年人的2.5倍,且被认定为“不推荐”向青少年展示的内容,其观看率也高于成年人1.5倍。
据庭审中披露的通讯记录,Meta公司的一名律师曾要求参与该演示文稿的员工删除上述统计数据,以“限制”莫塞里“接触这些信息”。莫塞里在作证时表示,他从未参与过任何限制自己获取信息的讨论。“我不是法律专家,不清楚为何要在提交给我的演示材料中删除信息,但我并未鼓励团队隐瞒任何内容。”他说,“据我理解,如果某些工作涉及法律问题,律师会审查相关材料。”他形容律师的职责是确保文件准确、合理,尤其是涉及合规性问题时。
此前,Instagram产品设计总监弗朗西斯科·福古作证谈到了2023年7月那次演示及围绕数据统计的讨论。福古表示,他当时“感到惊讶”,因为从未被要求“向管理层隐瞒数据”。他称最终获准以“口头方式”向Instagram高层汇报这些数据,并补充说数据仍可通过演示文稿中链接的报告查阅。在Meta律师的交叉质询中,福古表示该演示是成功的,因为它成为了Instagram推出青少年账号的“催化剂”。
庭审中还多次提及Instagram的“休息一下”功能,该功能可提醒用户停止刷屏。Meta数据显示,该功能自2021年推出后,最初仅有1.8%的用户选择使用。福古在作证时多次表示,他无法确认这一数据的准确性。法官伊冯娜·冈萨雷斯·罗杰斯追问福古是否知道该功能历史最高使用率,福古表示不知情。法官质疑道:“你是这项功能的负责人,却不知道它的最高使用率?”福古回应称:“我不负责建立数据仪表盘,也不阅读数据,那不是我职责所在,我只信任我的团队。”法官继续追问:“即便如此,尽管你需要信任团队、需要设计功能,但今天你坐在这里,却对这些数字一无所知?”
此前,Meta前数据科学家乔治·沃利琴科也曾作证称,“休息一下”功能在2022年推出后,青少年使用率“非常低且令人失望”。早期数据显示仅有0.165%的青少年选择使用10分钟休息功能,后虽升至0.2%,但仍被其形容为“容易被忽视的功能”。
莫塞里也被问及“休息一下”功能及其使用率,他似乎对这一话题感到不满。“这只是一个使用率低得令人失望的功能,但已得到显著改进。”他说。他同时指出,Instagram的青少年账号(现为16岁以下用户强制使用)默认开启时间限制功能。“很多功能是有效的,也有很多功能效果不佳。”他说,“如今每50人中只有1人会发布照片或视频到Instagram,参与率仅为2%。”
莫塞里是这起可能对Meta产生深远影响的诉讼中首位出庭作证的高管。各州检察长寻求高达1.4万亿美元的罚款,并希望迫使Meta改变其应用设计。Meta首席执行官马克·扎克伯格及其他现任和前任员工预计也将出庭。莫塞里的证词将于周三继续。
中文翻译:
亚当·莫塞里表示,Instagram员工限制了他接触青少年安全数据的相关消息对他而言是“闻所未闻”。Instagram负责人在Meta最新一场关于社交媒体成瘾和儿童隐私的庭审中出庭作证。
周二,Instagram负责人亚当·莫塞里在Meta最新一场关于社交媒体成瘾和儿童隐私的庭审中出庭作证。在作证过程中,莫塞里表示,Instagram员工曾被公司律师告知要“限制”他们在青少年安全工作中向这位高管呈现的某些类型数据,这对他而言是“闻所未闻”的消息。
莫塞里出庭是Meta与数十个州的总检察长之间一场备受瞩目的庭审的一部分。各州律师表示,Meta故意试图让儿童“上钩”使用其平台,尽管内部研究显示其应用正在伤害年轻用户。
周二庭审中浮出水面的一份内部研究来自2023年由Instagram设计师等人制作的关于应用内青少年安全的幻灯片。该幻灯片显示,与自杀、自伤和饮食失调相关的内容拥有“不成比例地庞大的青少年受众”,青少年观看人数是成年人的2.5倍。该幻灯片还显示,被认定为“不推荐给青少年”的内容,青少年的观看率是成年人的1.5倍。
根据庭审中披露的消息,公司一名律师后来告诉正在制作该演示文稿的Instagram员工,删除这些统计数据,以“限制”莫塞里“接触这些信息的范围”。周二在证人席上,莫塞里表示,他从未参与过任何关于限制自己获取信息权限的讨论。“我不是法律专家,所以我不确定在演示文稿送到我手里之前从中删除信息可能出于什么原因,但我并没有试图鼓励我的团队隐瞒任何事情,”他说,“我认为我的理解是,如果某些工作涉及法律影响,律师会审核相关材料。”他将律师的角色描述为确保文件的准确性,并确保“这些文件合理,尤其是涉及我们所做的事情是否符合法律时”。
莫塞里发表上述言论之前,Instagram产品设计总监弗朗西斯科·福古就2023年7月的演示文稿以及围绕其中应包含哪些统计数据的讨论出庭作证。福古表示他感到“惊讶”,因为他此前从未被要求“向领导层隐瞒数据”。他说,最终他被允许“口头”向Instagram领导层传达这些数据。他补充说,这些数据仍然可供高管查阅,因为数据详细记录在演示文稿中链接的报告中。后来,在Meta律师的交叉质询中,他表示该演示文稿是成功的,因为它成为Instagram青少年账户创建的“催化剂”。
在莫塞里和福古作证期间反复出现的一个功能是Instagram的“休息一下”工具,该工具可以提醒用户停止刷屏。根据Meta的数据,该功能于2021年推出后,最初只有1.8%的Instagram用户选择使用。仍在Meta工作的福古多次表示,他不确定该统计数据的准确性。
有一次,法官伊冯·冈萨雷斯·罗杰斯问福古,是否知道该功能的最高采用率是多少。福古表示不知道。“你是这方面的负责人,你却不知道它曾经达到的最高水平是多少?”她问道。“我不负责创建数据收集仪表板。我不读数据。那不是我的工作。我只是信任我的团队,”他说。“然而,即使你必须信任他们,即使你必须设计产品,你今天坐在这里却完全不知道这些数字是多少,”罗杰斯说。
福古并不是第一位就“休息一下”作证的证人。陪审团还听取了Meta前数据科学家乔治·沃利琴科的证词,他表示该功能在2022年推出后,青少年中的采用率“非常低且令人失望”。沃利琴科表示,早期调查结果显示,只有0.165%的青少年选择从Instagram“休息”10分钟,尽管后来采用率上升到0.2%。他将该功能描述为“容易被忽视”。
莫塞里也被问及“休息一下”及其采用率的问题。这位Instagram负责人似乎对该功能受到关注感到不满。“这是一个使用率低得令人失望的功能,但已经得到了显著改进,”他说。莫塞里指出,Instagram的青少年账户(现在16岁以下青少年必须使用)默认启用了时间限制。“有很多功能是有效的,也有很多功能是无效的,”他说,“如今每50个人中只有1个人会向Instagram发布照片或视频。那是2%的参与率。”
莫塞里是这场庭审中第一位出庭作证的Meta高管,这场庭审可能对Meta产生持久影响。各州律师正在寻求高达1.4万亿美元的罚款,并希望迫使该公司改变其应用设计方面的某些内容。CEO马克·扎克伯格预计也将出庭,还有其他现任和前任员工。莫塞里的作证将于周三继续。
英文来源:
Adam Mosseri says it's 'news to me' that Instagram employees limited his exposure to teen safety data
The head of Instagram is the first high-profile exec to testify in the latest social media addiction trial.
Instagram boss Adam Mosseri took the stand in Meta's latest trial over social media addiction and children's privacy Tuesday. During his testimony, Mosseri said that it was "news to me" that Instagram employees were told by a company lawyer to "limit" certain types of data they presented to the executive as part of their work on teen safety.
Mosseri appeared as part of a high-profile trial between Meta and attorneys general from dozens of states. Lawyers for the states have said that Meta intentionally tried to "hook" kids onto its platform despite internal research that showed its apps were harming young users.
One bit of internal research that surfaced during the trial Tuesday was from a 2023 slide deck prepared by Instagram designers and others about teen safety on the app. The deck indicated that content related to suicide, self injury and eating disorders had a "disproportionately large teen audience" that was two and half times bigger for teens than adults. It also indicated that content deemed "non-recommendable" to teens was being viewed by teens at a rate that was 1.5 times higher than adults.
A lawyer for the company later told Instagram employees working on the presentation to remove those stats in order to "limit" Mosseri's "exposure to this information," according to messages shared during the trial. On the stand Tuesday, Mosseri said that he has never participated in a conversation about moderating his own access to information. "I'm not a legal expert, so I'm not sure what the reasons might be for removing information from presentations before they get to me, but [I'm] not trying to encourage my team to hide anything," he said. "I think that my understanding is if there are legal implications of certain work, that lawyers review the material." He described the lawyers' role as ensuring the accuracy of documents and that "they make sense, particularly when it's about whether or not something we're doing complies with the law."
Mosseri's comments came after Instagram's Director of Product Design, Francesco Fogu, testified about the July 2023 presentation and the conversations around what statistics to include in it. Fogu said he was "surprised" because he had never before been told to "hide data from leadership." He was ultimately permitted to communicate the data to Instagram's leaders "vocally," he said. He added that the data was still available to executives because it was detailed in reports that were linked within the presentation. Later, during cross-examination from Meta's lawyer, he said the presentation was successful because it was the "catalyst" for the creation of Instagram's teen accounts.
One feature that repeatedly came up during Mosseri and Fogu's testimony was Instagram's "take a break" tool that can remind users to stop scrolling. Only 1.8 percent of Instagram users initially opted into the feature after it was introduced in 2021, according to data from Meta. Fogu, who still works at Meta, repeatedly said he was unsure about the accuracy of that statistic.
At one point, Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers asked Fogu whether he knew what the highest adoption rate for the feature had ever been. Fogu said he didn't. "You're the head of this and you don't know what the highest it's ever been," she asked. "I do not create the dashboards for collecting data. I do not read data. That's not my job. I just trust my team," he said. "And yet, even though you have to trust them, even though you have to design things, you have no idea what those numbers are as you sit here today," Rogers said.
Fogu wasn't the first witness to testify about "take a break." The jury also heard from a former data scientist at Meta, George Volichenko, who said the feature had a "very low and disappointing" adoption rate among teens after it was introduced in 2022. Volichenko said that early findings showed only .165 percent of teens opted to take a 10-minute break from Instagram, though adoption later increased to .2 percent. He described the feature as "easy to dismiss."
Mosseri was also pressed about "take a break" and its adoption rate. The Instagram chief seemed to be frustrated with the focus on the feature. "This is one feature with a disappointingly low usage rate, which has been significantly improved," he said. Instagram's teen accounts, which are now mandatory for teens under 16, have time limits enabled by default, Mosseri pointed out. "There are many features that are effective, there are many features that are ineffective," he said. "One in 50 people today will post a photo or a video to Instagram. That's a 2% participation rate."
Mosseri is the first high-profile Meta executive to testify in the trial, which could have a lasting impact on Meta. Lawyers for the states are seeking penalties as high as $1.4 trillion and hoping to force the company to change aspects of how its apps are designed. CEO Mark Zuckerberg is also expected to appear, along with other current and former employees. Mosseri's testimony will continue Wednesday.
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