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内容来源:https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/931006/musk-v-altman-closing-arguments-analysis
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庭审激辩与幕后八卦:马斯克诉奥特曼案结案陈词实录
今日,备受瞩目的“马斯克诉奥特曼案”进入结案陈词阶段。庭审现场上演了一场令人瞠目的“拆车秀”,马斯克律师团队表现失常,甚至将被告之一格雷格·布罗克曼错称为“格雷格·奥特曼”,并声称马斯克“不要求赔偿”,遭法官当场纠正。尽管律师坚称“听到许多谎言”,却未能为马斯克的核心法律主张提供有力证据。
OpenAI律师反击:连孩子他妈都不信他
OpenAI律师莎拉·埃迪则以时间线梳理海量证据,并未试图粉饰任何一方可信度,但抛出当日“金句”:“就连他孩子的母亲都不支持他的说法。”随后出场的被告方律师威廉·萨维特,现场列举马斯克多次“记不清”关键细节的例子,质疑这位资深商人为何“连一份四页的投资条款清单都看不懂”。
庭审变“八卦大会”:九大爆料全梳理
这场诉讼在业界更像一场“信息劫掠”。以下为庭审期间浮现的重磅内幕:
- 马斯克用OpenAI喂养xAI:马斯克承认xAI模型蒸馏了包括OpenAI在内的其他模型。2024年Grok的快速迭代被指并非独立开发。
- 特斯拉AI未能实现AGI:马斯克两次失败——收购OpenAI未果,以及挖角包括奥特曼在内的员工组建“世界级AI实验室”也未能如愿。
- 奥特曼曾考虑竞选加州州长:十年传闻在庭上获本人证实。
- 全员痴迷丹尼斯·哈萨比斯:尤其马斯克对DeepMind创始人表现出超常关注。
- 马斯克否认脾气差,却在庭上发火:交叉质询时,他对OpenAI律师萨维特大动肝火。
- 米拉·穆拉蒂“双面人”:她既提供聊天记录导致奥特曼被罢免,又向奥特曼通风报信,对外公开反对事件,却不向员工坦白自己的角色。被指“与奥特曼半斤八两”。
- 马斯克想让子女继承OpenAI(至少奥特曼如此声称)。
- OpenAI工程师“身在曹营心在汉”:布罗克曼等人在名义上为OpenAI工作时,实际在特斯拉从事自动驾驶软件开发。
- 希冯·齐里斯隐瞒马斯克是孩子父亲:直到商业内幕网站获取法庭文件,她甚至未告知父亲。
最吸睛证物:小丑奖杯
法官冈萨雷斯·罗杰斯也被逗乐的一件证物——“小丑奖杯”,形似少年棒球联盟奖杯,但只有驴的后半身。陪审团遗憾未能亲眼目睹。
结论:马斯克在AI领域“不行”
业界普遍认为,这场审判意在惩罚奥特曼,但更深的启示是:马斯克在AI领域屡战屡败。他多次预言OpenAI会失败,却不断尝试挖角、阻挠,甚至成功挖走联合创始人卡帕西。然而xAI如今成为SpaceX的资金黑洞,研究人员持续流失,巨型数据中心转而租给Anthropic,企业用户被“强制”使用,而引以为傲的Grok也被指靠蒸馏他人模型成功。
早在2018年,布罗克曼和萨斯凯维奇就曾指出马斯克“在AI/AGI上没做足功课”。如今,这场诉讼似乎证明他们是对的。问题在于,那些准备押注SpaceX IPO的投资者,是否注意到了这一切?
中文翻译:
今天是马斯克诉奥特曼案结案陈词的日子,我几乎不忍心写下刚刚目睹的那场荒诞车祸现场。马斯克的律师史蒂文·莫洛说话结结巴巴,一度把共同被告格雷格·布罗克曼叫成"格雷格·奥特曼",还错误地声称马斯克不要求赔偿金,被法官当场纠正。他明确表示过去几周我们听到了很多谎言,但为马斯克实际的法律主张提供的证据却少得可怜。
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我们在马斯克诉奥特曼案中学到了什么?一箩筐八卦。
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我们在马斯克诉奥特曼案中学到了什么?一箩筐八卦。
OpenAI的律师莎拉·埃迪应对得干净利落——她只是将公司提交的大量证据按时间顺序整理出来,没有花时间假装这场审判中的任何人特别可靠。不过,她还是贡献了当天最精彩的一句讽刺,关于马斯克:"连他孩子的母亲都不支持他的说法。"随后接棒被告辩护的威廉·萨维特,展示了马斯克"记不清"某些关键细节的次数,并质疑一位精明的商人为何看不懂或理解不了OpenAI发给他的四页条款清单。
我再次想:我们到底为什么都在这里浪费时间?那就来聊聊八卦吧,这才是这场审判的真正意义。八卦质量如何?以下是我最喜欢的一些料。
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马斯克用OpenAI改进xAI。恐怕这场审判一开始就达到高潮了——第一周爆出的料就是最精彩的八卦。正如我在2024年所说,Grok开发得非常快——快到让我怀疑它并非完全独立研发。事实证明,确实不是。马斯克承认xAI蒸馏了包括OpenAI在内的其他模型。那些投资人的钱到底用在了哪里?
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特斯拉AI未能实现通用人工智能。事实上,马斯克在这方面失败了两次:一次试图收购OpenAI未果,另一次试图通过挖角包括山姆·奥特曼本人在内的OpenAI员工来削弱对方、组建"世界级AI实验室"也以失败告终。
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山姆·奥特曼证实了十年前关于他考虑竞选加州州长的传闻。
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每个人都痴迷于德米斯·哈萨比斯,尤其是马斯克。
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马斯克声称自己不发脾气。但在交叉质询中,他对OpenAI的萨维特发了脾气。
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米拉·穆拉蒂在奥特曼被罢免事件中两面三刀——她提供了一些导致奥特曼被解雇的聊天记录,又向奥特曼透露董事会的动向,公开抱怨此事,并且拒绝向员工坦白她在罢免事件中的角色。对穆拉蒂来说,这"方向性非常糟糕"。所有人都指责奥特曼是条蛇,但穆拉蒂也没好到哪去。
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马斯克想让他的孩子继承OpenAI。(至少奥特曼是这么说的!)
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奥特曼雇用了曾在推特上狠狠教训过马斯克的萨维特,他很可能再次教训马斯克。我很欣赏奥特曼在宣誓状态下仍坚持"捅刀子"的作风——他既暗示马斯克与OpenAI关系不大,说他有"领跑者焦虑症",又暗指马斯克已不再受人尊敬,还能在程序上激怒对方……从一个小心眼的人到另一个:干得漂亮。
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布罗克曼和其他OpenAI工程师在理论上受雇于OpenAI期间,同时为特斯拉开发自动驾驶软件。
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希冯·齐利斯直到商业内幕网拿到法庭文件后,才告知董事会其他成员马斯克是她孩子的父亲。她甚至没有告诉自己的父亲!
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"有传言说,除了那些因为不信任德米斯会监视他们的电子邮件和谷歌聊天而秘密在推特私信里交流的人之外……"
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"我不想让IBM变成微软,而OpenAI变成微软。"
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那个蠢驴奖杯。我很遗憾陪审团没看到它。它就像一个小联盟奖杯,但只有驴的后半身。就连法官伊冯·冈萨雷斯·罗杰斯都觉得这很好笑。
虽然这场审判旨在惩罚奥特曼(而且可以说已经达到了目的),但我想聚焦于自己的真实感受:埃隆·马斯克在AI方面就是个废物。
听着,马斯克多次说过OpenAI不会成功。他多次试图削弱它、挖走它的研究人员,有一次——他引诱OpenAI创始团队成员安德烈·卡帕西去了特斯拉——还成功了。但xAI现在怎么样呢?它就是个被SpaceX收购的资金黑洞,研究人员大量流失。它的一座大型数据中心不会由xAI使用——转而与Anthropic达成了协议。它可能会收购Cursor,试图与Anthropic和OpenAI推出的编程产品抗衡。xAI的企业用户,无论是美国政府还是私营公司,都被强行要求使用它。至于它那定制的CSAM机器Grok(又名MechaHitler)能运行,显然是因为马斯克蒸馏了别人的模型。
齐利斯在2018年写道,布罗克曼和萨克基弗认为马斯克"在AI/通用人工智能方面根本没做足功课,这让他们对与他合作感到担忧"。离开这场审判时,我认为所有这些该死的骗子都是彼此绝配,但公平地说,布罗克曼和萨克基弗在这点上完全正确。现在的问题是,任何考虑投资即将进行的SpaceX IPO的人是否注意到了这一点,或者是否在乎。
英文来源:
Today was closing arguments in the Musk v. Altman trial, and I almost feel bad writing about the unbelievable demolition derby I just witnessed. Steven Molo, Musk’s lawyer, stumbled over his words. He at one point called Greg Brockman — a co-defendant — Greg Altman. He erroneously claimed that Musk wasn’t asking for money and had to be corrected by the judge. He made it clear we’ve heard from many liars over the past few weeks, but offered little evidence for Musk’s actual legal claims.
Closing time
What did we learn throughout Musk v. Altman? A lot of gossip.
Closing time
What did we learn throughout Musk v. Altman? A lot of gossip.
OpenAI’s lawyer, Sarah Eddy, countered this by simply arranging the mountain of evidence that the company introduced in chronological order. She didn’t spend time trying to pretend anyone in this trial is especially reliable. She did, however, get the zinger of the day, about Musk: “Even the mother of his children can’t back his story.” William Savitt, who took the defendant baton after her presentation, demonstrated the number of times Musk “didn’t recall” some critical detail — and wondered how a sophisticated businessman couldn’t understand or read a four-page term sheet OpenAI had sent to him.
I found myself wondering, again, why we were all wasting our time here. So let’s discuss the gossip, which is the real point of this trial. How good was it? Here are my favorite nuggets.
- Musk used OpenAI to improve xAI. I’m afraid this trial was front-loaded; revealed the first week, this was the best bit of gossip we got. As I suggested in 2024, Grok was developed very fast — so fast I was skeptical it was entirely independent. Turns out, it wasn’t. Musk admitted that xAI distilled other models, including OpenAI’s. What was all that investor money for, again?
- Tesla AI failed to run at AGI. Musk in fact failed at this twice, once by unsuccessfully trying to acquire OpenAI and again by unsuccessfully trying to kneecap OpenAI by recruiting its employees, including Sam Altman himself, for a “world-class AI lab.”
- Sam Altman confirmed decade-old reports that he thought about running for governor of California.
- Everyone, but especially Musk, is obsessed with Demis Hassabis.
- Musk claimed he doesn’t lose his temper. During the cross examination, he lost his temper at OpenAI’s Savitt.
- Mira Murati played both sides of the Altman ouster — providing some chats that got him removed, then feeding Altman details about what the board was up to, publicly complaining about the event, and refusing to tell employees about her role in the ouster. I would call this “directionally very bad” for Murati. Everyone hammered on Altman as a snake, but Murati is no better.
- Musk wanted his kids to inherit OpenAI. (At least, according to Altman!)
- Altman hired Savitt, who kicked Musk’s ass on Twitter, and may very well kick his ass again. I was amused by Altman’s commitment to knifework under oath, managing to suggest both that Musk had little to do with OpenAI, say he had “front-runner-itis,” and imply Musk was no longer respected, but managing to annoy someone just procedurally… From one petty bitch to another: beautifully done.
- Brockman and other OpenAI engineers worked at Tesla, while they were theoretically employed by OpenAI, on self-driving software.
- Shivon Zillis didn’t tell her fellow board members that Musk was the father of her children until Business Insider got ahold of some court documents. She didn’t even tell her own father!
- “Rumor has it that, on top of the folks that secretly converse on Twitter DM because they don’t trust Demis not to spy on their email and gchat…”
- “I don’t want to be IBM and OpenAI to be Microsoft.”
- The jackass trophy. I am so sorry that the jurors didn’t get to see it. It was like a little league trophy but just the back half of a donkey. Even Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers thought this was pretty funny.
While this trial was meant to punish Altman and arguably already has, I’d like to focus on my actual takeaway here: Elon Musk sucks at AI.
Look, Musk said multiple times that OpenAI wouldn’t succeed. He’s tried, repeatedly, to kneecap it and steal its researchers and in one case — that of Andrej Karpathy, a founding team member Musk lured to Tesla — succeeded. But how’s xAI doing? Well, it’s a black hole for money that’s been acquired by SpaceX. It’s hemorrhaging researchers. One of its huge data centers isn’t going to be occupied by xAI — there’s a deal with Anthropic instead. It might buy Cursor, in an attempt to match the programming-focused products put forward by Anthropic and OpenAI. xAI’s enterprise users, whether that’s the US government or private companies, have been strong-armed into using it. To the degree that its bespoke CSAM machine Grok, aka MechaHitler, works, it apparently works because Musk distilled other people’s models.
Zilis wrote in 2018 that Brockman and Sutskever thought that Musk “really hasn’t done his homework [on] AI / AGI and that concerns them about working with him.” I am leaving this trial thinking all these fucking liars deserve each other, but in fairness to Brockman and Sutskever, they were absolutely right about this. The question now is if anyone who’s thinking of investing in the upcoming SpaceX IPO has noticed, or cares.