三万英尺高空的气候进展:阿拉斯加航空的瑞安·斯皮斯谈可持续航空的飞行路径

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阿拉斯加航空可持续发展主管:应对气候变化无需“完美主义”
阿拉斯加航空可持续发展事务董事总经理瑞安·斯皮斯并非气候领域的“完美主义者”。他坦言,自己虽然驾驶电动车,但偶尔也会享用碳排放较高的芝士汉堡。在他看来,更关键的是推动更大范围的系统性变革:参与集体行动、审慎选择投票对象、有意识地使用消费力。他还鼓励消费者直接向企业反馈环保诉求。
“无论在哪家公司,只要客户来信提出投诉、建议或强烈呼吁,这些声音都会在内部传播,并推动改变。”斯皮斯表示。这一理念正指导着他领导阿拉斯加航空可持续发展工作的日常。该公司主营航线、夏威夷航空及区域子公司每天运营近1500架次航班,斯皮斯负责气候报告、公共政策、员工参与、运营效率及废物减排等工作。
其核心任务是扩大可持续航空燃料(SAF)的生产与应用。阿拉斯加航空是今年1月启动的“喀斯喀特可持续航空燃料加速器”项目的创始推动方之一,该项目旨在将太平洋西北地区打造为全球SAF研发中心。
以下是斯皮斯就可持续发展话题的问答实录(内容经编辑精简):
问:是什么契机让你投身可持续发展事业?
答:大约20年前,我作为海军文职工程师观看纪录片《难以忽视的真相》后深受触动。我虽一直自认环保主义者,但当时才真正意识到气候危机的严峻性。这促使我离职攻读MBA,专注研究如何推动企业利用商业力量践行环保。
问:应对气候变化,你最担忧什么?
答:许多人知道问题严重,却感到无力改变。作为三个孩子的父亲,我理解日常压力让人难以专注宏大议题。最担心的是气候问题被社会边缘化。我们不要求人人每日行动,但希望各国政府能持续重视并应对挑战。
问:什么令你对地球未来保持希望?
答:气候解决方案的规模化速度远超预期。16年前可再生能源虽具潜力,但经济性不足;如今太阳能与储能的成本已大幅下降,成为新建能源项目的最佳选择。市场已不再有反对清洁能源的经济理由。
问:若能一夜之间发明一项气候技术,会是什么?
答:全球最高能量密度的电池。当前航空业受困于物理极限——锂电池密度仅300瓦时/千克,而航空煤油高达14000瓦时/千克。若能突破,清洁航空才可能实现。
问:如果选一位已故或在世的气候领袖喝咖啡,会选谁?
答:这个愿望已经实现——纽约气候周期间,我与阿尔·戈尔先生共进早餐并深入交流。
问:哪项被低估的可持续发展方案值得更多关注?
答:集体行动至关重要。在西北太平洋地区,我们联合波音、高校及大型企业发起“喀斯喀特SAF加速器”,因为单靠任何一方都无法解决可持续航空燃料的规模化问题。
问:作为气候领导者,你最关注哪个数据?
答:油价。它既是航司成本的核心变量,也与替代能源推进存在微妙关系——油价越高,传统燃料需求会下降,反而可能加速清洁方案落地。这个全球性指标每天牵动行业变化。
问:面对气候挑战的艰巨性,你如何开展工作?
答:控制能控制的,影响能影响的,同时理解商业现实。企业以盈利为本,纯粹的气候说教未必奏效。我的方法是站在对方角度,找到气候目标与业务利益的交集。多数人不会主动思考工作与气候的关系——这正是我的职责所在。
问:希望20年后你的工作带来什么影响?
答:切实推动社会摆脱高碳生活方式。无论是否关心气候问题,它终将影响每个人。我们这代人拥有改变的力量,而受益者将是所有现在及未来的地球居民。希望我的工作能成为其中一部分。
中文翻译:
瑞安·斯皮斯(Ryan Spies)是阿拉斯加航空(Alaska Airlines)的可持续发展总经理,他并非气候问题上的完美主义者。没错,他开的是电动车——但偶尔也会吃一个碳排放相对较高的芝士汉堡。
他说,更重要的是人们努力推动更大规模的变革:参与集体行动,谨慎选择投票对象,并有意识地进行消费。斯皮斯还鼓励消费者直接联系企业,提出可持续发展方面的关切。
斯皮斯说:“在我待过的任何一家公司,如果有客户写信来投诉、提建议或发出恳切的呼吁,这些信息都会在公司内部传开。这能起到推动作用。”
这一理念塑造了他处理本职工作——在阿拉斯加航空领导可持续发展工作——的方式。该公司旗下主营航空、夏威夷航空及地区子公司每天运营近1500个航班。斯皮斯负责监督气候报告与公共政策、员工参与、运营效率以及减少废弃物等工作。
他工作的一个核心重点是扩大可持续航空燃料(SAF)的生产与使用。阿拉斯加航空是“卡斯卡迪亚可持续航空燃料加速器”项目的创始推动者之一。该项目于今年1月启动,旨在将太平洋西北地区打造为可持续航空燃料开发的全球领导者。
继续阅读,了解更多斯皮斯的可持续发展历程。为清晰和篇幅考虑,他的引述已做编辑。
你是从什么时候意识到自己必须从事可持续发展工作的?
大概是在20年前。我当时是海军的一名文职工程师,那工作与可持续发展毫无关系。我看了阿尔·戈尔的电影《难以忽视的真相》。我一直自认是环保主义者,明白我们需要保护地球,但我此前并不清楚我们即将面临的严峻危机。这促使我辞去工作,重返校园攻读MBA,专注于研究战略以及如何让企业尽自己的一份力,并利用商业的力量去行善。
在解决气候变化问题上,你最大的担忧是什么?
很多人都知道这是个重大问题,但大多数人并不觉得自己有能力为此做点什么。而且,我是三个小孩的父亲。我明白我们每天都面临着各种挑战,而像这样重大的生存挑战,我们很难投入太多心思或时间。因此,我最大的担忧是,这件事的重要性会逐渐下降。我不指望每个人都为此天天做什么,但我希望我们能找到办法,让我们的政府以及世界各国的政府得以应对这些重大挑战。
对于地球,什么给了你最大的希望?
我看到气候危机的解决方案能够如此迅速地推广和落实。16年前,当我真正开始涉足这个领域时,可再生能源的前景已经显现,从长远来看它能省钱,但你无法迅速靠它盈利。而今天,我看到了这些解决方案的指数级增长,以及它们成本的下降,使其成为最经济实惠的选择。如今,如果你想部署新能源,最佳选择绝对是太阳能加储能。在经济上,已经没有任何理由反对它们了。
如果你能在一夜之间发明一种气候解决方案,那会是什么?
关键在于如何制造出世界上能量密度最高的电池。如果能做到这一点,你就可以将其与清洁的可再生能源结合起来。电动汽车就是一个取得巨大进步的绝佳例子:它们显然是一种优越的出行方式,我很喜欢这一点,但在航空业,我们离这一步还很远。这纯粹是一个物理问题。当今能量密度最高的电池约为每千克300瓦时。而航空燃油是每千克14000瓦时。差距实在太大了。
如果能与任何一位过去或现在的气候领袖喝杯咖啡,你会选谁?
我已经和阿尔·戈尔喝过咖啡了,所以这个愿望已经实现了。那是在纽约气候周期间。我受邀参加一个领袖早餐会,惊喜嘉宾就是戈尔先生。能和他交谈真是太棒了。
有什么被低估的可持续发展解决方案值得更多关注?
集体行动的理念非常重要——真正推动大事需要众多来自不同角色和组织的人。在太平洋西北地区,我们与许多合作伙伴启动了一个名为“卡斯卡迪亚可持续航空加速器”的合作项目。我们认为自己是华盛顿州乃至本地区的领导者,但我们无法单独解决可持续航空燃料的问题。我们知道需要州政府的支持,需要波音公司的参与,需要大企业的力量,也需要大学的合作。
作为气候领导者,你痴迷关注的一项指标是什么?
油价是我们所有人都关心的事。这是个棘手的指标,因为它占我们航空公司成本的很大一部分;但另一方面,油价越高,需求就越低,这对气候、对加速替代方案的推出来说,可能是一件好事。我每天都密切关注这个指标,在霍尔木兹海峡关闭前如此,在其重新开放后很久也依然如此。这是一个能撼动全局的全球性指标。
气候挑战的范围令人望而生畏——你是如何着手这项工作的?
控制你能控制的,影响你能影响的,用你充满热忱的声音去发声,同时也要理解现实的复杂性。企业的目的是盈利,你不可能总是用气候论点取胜。当我考虑如何影响其他领导者、影响组织其他部门时,对我来说,关键是要站在他们的立场上,理解他们的优先事项,看看我们的目标如何契合。归根结底,大多数人并不会去想气候变化以及他们的工作会对其产生什么影响。而这正是我的工作。
你希望20年后你的工作产生什么影响?
切实地推动我们摆脱高碳的生活方式。我们有能力促成这些改变,而且我相信我们都会从中受益。即使你不关心气候,或者认为它不会影响你的生活,它终将产生影响。那么,我们该如何切实改善地球上每一个人以及未来所有子孙后代的福祉呢?我希望我的工作能为此尽一份力。
英文来源:
Ryan Spies, Alaska Airlines’ managing director of sustainability, isn’t a climate perfectionist. Yes, he drives an EV — but he also eats a relatively carbon-intensive cheeseburger now and then.
What matters more, he says, is when people work to drive larger-scale change: engaging in collective action, being mindful of who you vote for, and being intentional with your dollars. Spies also encourages consumers to contact companies directly with sustainability concerns.
“Any company I’ve been at, if a customer writes in with a complaint or a suggestion or a passionate plea, those make their way around inside a company,” Spies said. “That moves needles.”
It’s a philosophy that shapes how he approaches his day job leading sustainability efforts at Alaska — which operates nearly 1,500 daily flights across its mainline, Hawaiian Airlines and regional subsidiaries. Spies oversees climate reporting and public policy, employee engagement, operational efficiency and waste reduction.
A central focus is scaling up production and use of sustainable aviation fuel, or SAF. Alaska is a founding driver of the Cascadia Sustainable Aviation Fuel Accelerator, an initiative launched in January that aims to establish the Pacific Northwest as a global leader in SAF development.
Keep reading to learn more about Spies’ sustainability journey. His quotes have been edited for clarity and length.
What was the moment you realized you had to work in sustainability?
It was probably 20 years ago. I was a civilian engineer for the Navy, which wasn’t working on sustainability at all, and I saw “An Inconvenient Truth,” Al Gore’s film. I have always considered myself an environmentalist and someone who understands that we need to take care of the planet, but I didn’t have an idea of the stark crisis that we were going to be up against. That spurred me to leave my job, go back to school, get an MBA, and focus on strategy and how do we get corporations to do their part, and use the power of business to do good.
What’s your biggest worry when it comes to solving climate change?
A lot of people understand that it’s a big problem, but most people don’t feel empowered to do something about it. And look, I’m a father of three little kids. I understand that we all have day-to-day challenges, and these big existential challenges are not something that we can dedicate a lot of mind or time space to. So my biggest worry is that it just falls off of a level of importance. I don’t expect everyone to do something every day about it, but I would hope that we find a way to enable things like our government and governments around the world to tackle these big challenges.
What gives you the most hope for the planet?
I see how fast solutions to the climate crisis can scale and be implemented. Sixteen years ago when I started in this space in a real way, the promise of renewable energy was there, that it could save you money over the long term, but you wouldn’t quickly turn around and make money. Today I see the exponential growth of those solutions and the reduction in costs to make them the most affordable solutions. If you want to install new energy today, the absolute best choice is solar and storage. There’s no longer an economic argument against them.
If you could invent one climate solution overnight, what would it be?
It’s how do you make the most energy-dense battery in the world. If you can do that, you can pair it with clean renewable energy. EVs are a great example of where there’s been a lot of progress: They’re clearly an advantaged way to travel, and I love that, but in the airline business, we’re not close to that. It’s purely a physics problem. The densest batteries today are 300 watts per kilogram. Jet fuel is 14,000 watts per kilogram. It’s just not close.
Coffee with any climate leader, past or present — who do you pick?
I’ve had coffee with Al Gore, so I’ve already achieved that. It was at New York Climate Week. I was invited to this leaders’ breakfast and the surprise guest was Mr. Gore. It was great to be able to talk to him.
What’s an underrated sustainability solution that deserves more attention?
The idea of collective action is tremendously important — it takes so many people in different roles and organizations to actually move big things. Here in the Pacific Northwest, we started this collaboration with many of our partners called the Cascadia Sustainability Aviation Accelerator. We look at ourselves as a leader here in Washington state and the region, but we cannot solve the sustainable aviation fuel problem alone. We know that we need the state, we know that we need Boeing, we know that we need big corporates, we know that we need the universities.
What’s one metric you watch obsessively as a climate leader?
The price of oil is on all of our minds. And it’s a hard one because it’s so much of our costs at the airline, but on the other hand, the higher that price goes, the less demand there is and that’s probably a good thing for climate, for accelerating alternative solutions. I’m keyed in on that every day, and that was before the Strait of Hormuz closed, and will be long after it reopens. That’s a global metric that moves mountains.
The scope of the climate challenge is daunting – how do you approach this work?
Control what you can control, influence where you can, use your passionate voice, but also understand the pragmatic realities. Businesses are here to make money, and you’re not going to always win with a climate argument. When I think about influencing other leaders, other parts of the organization, to me it is about meeting them where they’re at and understanding what their priorities are and seeing how our priorities align. Ultimately, most folks are not thinking about climate and how their job can affect it. That’s what my job is.
What impact do you hope your work has in 20 years?
Meaningfully moving us away from a carbon-heavy lifestyle. We have the power to make these changes happen, and I think we’re all going to benefit from them. Even if you don’t care about climate or don’t think it’s going to affect your life, it will, and so how do we meaningfully improve the lives of every person on the planet and all the ones who are still to come. I hope my work plays a part in that.
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