马斯克最忠实的拥护者,最终成了他最大的累赘。

内容来源:https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/925665/musk-altman-trial-shivon-zilis-testimony
内容总结:
马斯克与奥特曼法庭对决:关键证人席冯·齐利斯成“定时炸弹”
近日,埃隆·马斯克与山姆·奥特曼之间的法律战在法庭内上演关键一幕。庭审中最具冲击力的并非双方律师的唇枪舌剑,而是一位特殊证人的证词——席冯·齐利斯(Shivon Zilis),她不仅是马斯克四名孩子的母亲,更曾是OpenAI董事会成员,其提供的笔记被控方视为迄今最有力的证据。
齐利斯在庭上承认,她与马斯克通过OpenAI相识,二人经历了一段“浪漫关系”后成为“朋友和同事”。她于2017年起为马斯克工作,负责其“整个人工智能业务组合”,包括特斯拉、Neuralink和OpenAI。她自称每周工作80至100小时,任务是“找到瓶颈并解决它们”。
然而,她的双重身份引发严重质疑。2021年,她的双胞胎出生时,她仍担任OpenAI董事会成员,却对孩子的父亲身份秘而不宣,直到《商业内幕》曝光法庭文件才被迫承认。她甚至未告知自己的父亲,事后第一时间致电奥特曼解释,称与马斯克的关系是“柏拉图式的”,孩子通过试管婴儿获得。这一说法让OpenAI总裁格雷格·布罗克曼一度信以为真,她得以继续留任董事会。
庭审中,齐利斯表现得轻声细语、略显怯懦,但她的笔记却成为案件转折点。这些记录涵盖了2017至2018年间马斯克、奥特曼、布罗克曼及伊利亚·苏茨克维等联合创始人在探讨OpenAI营利化方案时的内部讨论。笔记显示,马斯克曾提议将OpenAI转为营利实体,甚至将其并入特斯拉。齐利斯还记录了OpenAI创始人的“铁律”:绝不能让马斯克或任何人“绝对控制”通用人工智能(AGI)。
更关键的是,齐利斯涉嫌充当马斯克的“内线”。她在证词中承认,会告知奥特曼何时马斯克“情绪适合对话”,但否认向马斯克泄露情报。然而,一份2017年的短信显示,在马斯克退出OpenAI董事会后,她曾询问是否应“保持亲密友好”以继续提供信息。当原告律师追问时,她一度表示“记忆模糊”,但又在后续证词中“突然想起”有利马斯克的细节,被OpenAI律师讽刺为“失联的记忆恢复了”。
此外,齐利斯亲笔写道:“当你孩子的父亲开始竞争项目并从OpenAI挖人时,你无能为力。”这句话指向马斯克后来创立xAI公司的举动。她承认,自己最终因“马斯克启动竞争项目”而辞去OpenAI董事会职务,但辩称“不知道xAI的细节”,这一说法遭到检方质疑。
法庭内外普遍认为,齐利斯的核心忠诚始终属于马斯克。她允许OpenAI继续信任她,同时秘密为马斯克提供信息,甚至在批准微软交易后也未告知董事会全部实情。从笔记和邮件看,马斯克并非反对OpenAI营利化,而是反对自己无法掌控它。布罗克曼及OpenAI董事会在得知齐利斯与马斯克的关系后仍留用她,被外界视为“难以置信的天真”。
整场庭审中,齐利斯在交叉询问阶段表现相对出色,但她留下的书面证据铁证如山。正如旁听者所言:“口头可以撒谎,但笔记不会。”
中文翻译:
今天我坐在马斯克诉奥特曼案的庭审现场,痛苦地意识到,没人会问出所有人心里那个问题:姑娘,你到底在搞什么鬼?
马斯克最忠诚的盟友,成了他最大的软肋
希冯·齐利斯的笔记,可能是我们目前看到的最重要证据。
齐利斯在宣誓后作证称,她是马斯克四个孩子的母亲。该如何定义她的身份呢?马斯克的顾问?她否认自己是"幕僚长",但表示从2017年开始,她为马斯克的"整个人工智能业务组合"工作,包括特斯拉、Neuralink和OpenAI。两人通过OpenAI相识,有过她所说的"一次性关系",随后成为"朋友和同事"。她确认,那次"一次性关系"是"浪漫性质的"。
她在马斯克手下的工作是"寻找瓶颈并解决它们",她声称每周为此工作80到100小时。"简直太疯狂了,"她说。她的前两个孩子——双胞胎——出生于2021年,当时齐利斯仍在OpenAI董事会任职。她对此保密,直到《商业内幕》报道了法庭文件,列出马斯克是孩子的父亲,她才告知董事会。
"我第一个电话打给了我爸,"齐利斯说,她作证时表示,连她自己的家人都不知道孩子的父亲是谁。"紧接着第二个电话打给了山姆·奥特曼。"OpenAI总裁格雷格·布罗克曼作证称,他是从新闻报道中得知齐利斯孩子的消息。当他与她谈论此事时,她声称自己与马斯克的关系是"柏拉图式的",并且她是通过试管婴儿生育的孩子。这对从2013年起就是她朋友的布罗克曼来说,算是足够的安抚。她继续留在董事会。
在证人席上,齐利斯说话轻声细语,语速很快。她看起来胆小羞怯。她的证词对马斯克如此不利的重要原因之一是,当OpenAI联合创始人考虑创建营利性部门时,她似乎是唯一一个记录布罗克曼、奥特曼、伊利亚·苏茨克维和马斯克讨论内容的人。她还"协助并促进主要各方之间的沟通"。这些笔记是庭审中最关键的证据——甚至比布罗克曼的日记还要重要。
直接询问的目的似乎是为了削弱齐利斯和原告律师明知即将到来的冲击。所以她告诉法庭,她的职责还包括在马斯克"心情适合"谈话时通知奥特曼——这或许无意中强化了布罗克曼昨天的证词,即他曾一度担心马斯克会对他进行人身攻击——同时她坚决否认自己向马斯克输送信息。
但这招没奏效。
听着,她和马斯克作证说他们住在一起,有浪漫关系并育有四个孩子。她最初是这起诉讼的原告。她对自己父亲都隐瞒了孩子的父亲身份。所有这些都足以让人怀疑她的证词,即她认为在奥特曼被董事会解雇的混乱时期,OpenAI背叛了其使命。她声称微软首席执行官萨提亚·纳德拉在那段混乱时期说过类似"我们高于他们,我们低于他们,我们围绕他们"的话,这让她感到"可怕"。(原话是"我们在他们之下,在他们之上,在他们周围。")
但真正让马斯克输掉官司的,是那些笔记。无论她怎么努力,齐利斯都无法解释清楚这些笔记。
2017年和2018年有很多想法被提出。我们看到了齐利斯在那段时期的许多邮件。值得注意的是,其中一封邮件提到一个选项是"在未来几周内转型为营利性(哇,好快!)。"另一封邮件指出,奥特曼、布罗克曼和苏茨克维的"完全不可协商的条件"是"一份铁板钉钉的协议,确保埃隆(或任何人)绝对不能控制他们创造的AGI。"在另一封邮件中,她写给马斯克的资金管理人贾里德·伯查尔:"他们说,如果没有保证摆脱他的控制,他们就不会推进。你我可以争论这有多愚蠢,但他们对此非常坚持。"
"如果他待在埃隆身边,或许会迫使他更多思考人性"
齐利斯还在OpenAI之前就知道了马斯克暂停捐款的事。2017年8月20日,她写道:"资金冻结:OpenAI很可能本周就会意识到,他们第三季度的500万美元被搁置了,虽然这做法本身没错。不确定这会影响谈判,但如果他们发现了,可能会产生巨大的心理冲击,我想提请你注意。"一周多后,即9月1日,马斯克才告诉布罗克曼和苏茨克维,他撤回了资金。
还有其他一些算计:
- 有一次,马斯克似乎建议她、山姆·特勒和伯查尔——马斯克最亲近的两名"救火队员"——都应该在OpenAI董事会中占有一席,这样马斯克就能控制这家非营利组织。齐利斯写给特勒说,她没有把这个想法告诉OpenAI团队。
- 2017年11月,马斯克正考虑在特斯拉内部创建"世界级的人工智能实验室"。为此,马斯克向奥特曼提供了一个特斯拉董事会席位。
- 齐利斯给马斯克写了一封邮件,说为了节省他的时间,她为他想了几个解决方案。其中三个涉及在特斯拉开发AGI。一个是将OpenAI变为特斯拉的全资公益公司子公司。一个是让奥特曼作为特斯拉AI的"锚定人物"。
- 我最喜欢的一个解决方案是:"想办法搞定戴米斯。说真的……戴米斯真的是你的狂热粉丝,我不认为他不道德……只是缺乏道德感。如果他待在埃隆身边,或许会迫使他更多思考人性。"
- 在挖来安德烈·卡帕西后,马斯克要求提供一份OpenAI顶级人才的名单以便挖角。
我们之前在案卷中已经看到过她的一条短信——马斯克离开董事会时,她问他是否应该保持"亲密和友好"以继续向他输送信息。在她的直接证词中,她试图说明背景:"他们正经历那种奇怪的分手期,"她说。但在交叉询问中,我们发现她在之前的证词中并不记得这件事。
"你失落的记忆已经找回来了,"OpenAI的律师莎拉·埃迪在庭审中一个有趣的时刻说道。当然,马斯克的团队提出了反对,反对被法官支持了,但我们都听到了。事实上,这是齐利斯似乎恢复了她在之前证词中没有的记忆的几次之一,这些记忆——我敢肯定是巧合——恰好对马斯克的案子有利。
公平地说,齐利斯在我们目前看到的众人中,在交叉询问中表现最好,但她看起来并不完全诚实。当我们发现她如何离开董事会时,更有理由怀疑她——根据她的证词,那是因为"我接到了山姆的电话,他说'我听说埃隆正在创办一家竞争性企业',我说'好吧,如果这是真的,那现在就是我辞职的时候了。'"
她的首要忠诚对象过去和现在都是马斯克
神秘的是,她在今天的证词和之前证词之间忘记了那个电话。但她似乎确实知道马斯克正在推进人工智能项目,当时她给手机里存为"沙希尼·鲁比孔·润滑者"的朋友发了短信。(了不起的名字。托马斯·品钦会非常嫉妒的。)"顺便说一句,我必须辞去OpenAI董事会的职务,"她写道。"埃隆的动作已经众所周知了。"她的朋友似乎对这个消息并不惊讶。齐利斯继续说:"当你孩子的父亲开始一项竞争性事业,并且会从OpenAI挖人时,你什么也做不了。"
齐利斯补充说,马斯克"主动为此道歉,说通过这件事他削弱了我的朋友圈。"
在我看来,这一切叠加起来意味着:她的首要忠诚对象过去和现在都是马斯克。要相信她不知道xAI的事,我得相信尽管那时他们已有三个孩子,而且他每周都和他们相处,但他从未和她讨论过这件事。我不信。谁会信呢?她的会议记录中有足够证据表明,她经常代表马斯克向OpenAI隐瞒信息——对xAI也不会有什么不同。我也不相信,在她担任OpenAI董事会成员期间批准微软的交易时,没有向马斯克提供相关信息。
马斯克对把整个OpenAI转为营利性公司,或者通过挖走其最强研究员来削弱这家慈善机构,都没有问题。他并不介意以各种方式将其纳入特斯拉。他在意的是不能控制它。这就是我从齐利斯的短信和邮件中得出的结论。
布罗克曼和OpenAI董事会在得知齐利斯双胞胎孩子的父亲身份后,还允许她继续工作,简直是天真得难以置信。但话说回来,也许没人预料到如此温顺的人会如此狡猾。她足够聪明,在交叉询问中没有提高嗓门,也没有对明显的问题吹毛求疵,因此她的举止显得比我们目前看到的任何人都更可信。只是从她的书面通讯中得出的总体结论是,她把马斯克放在了她生命中的第一位。其他所有人——显然包括她自己的父亲——都得靠边站。所以,在证人席上,你不妨假设她说的也是马斯克想听的话。
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英文来源:
I sat down in the Musk v. Altman trial courtroom today, painfully aware that no one was going to ask Shivon Zilis the question on everyone’s minds: Girl, what the fuck are you doing?
Musk’s biggest loyalist became his biggest liability
Shivon Zilis’ notes might be the most important evidence we’ve seen so far.
Shivon Zilis’ notes might be the most important evidence we’ve seen so far.
Zilis, who testified under oath that she is the mother of four of Musk’s children, was… what’s the best way to characterize this? A Musk advisor? She denies she was a “chief of staff” but says she worked for Musk’s “entire AI portfolio: Tesla, Neuralink, and OpenAI” starting in 2017. The two met through OpenAI, and they had what she referred to as a “one off” before becoming “friends and colleagues.” The “one off,” she confirmed, was “romantic in nature.”
Her job under Musk was “to go find bottlenecks and solve them,” and she claims to have worked 80 to 100 hours a week doing that. “It was just bananas,” she said. Her first two children by Musk — twins — were born in 2021, while Zilis was serving on OpenAI’s board. She kept this a secret. She did not tell the board who the father was until Business Insider reported on court documents that listed Musk as the father.
“My first call was to my dad,” said Zilis, who testified that even her own family didn’t know the children’s paternity. “The call right after that was to Sam Altman.” Greg Brockman, OpenAI’s president, had testified he found out about Zillis’ children from news reports. When he talked to her about it, she claimed her relationship with Musk was “platonic” and that she’d had kids via IVF. This was reassurance enough for Brockman, who’d been friends with her since 2013. She remained on the board.
On the stand, Zilis spoke softly and quickly. She seemed mousy. A significant part of what made her testimony so bad for Musk was that she appeared to be the only person taking notes on what Brockman, Altman, Ilya Sutsekever, and Musk were discussing when the cofounders considered their options for creating a for-profit arm of OpenAI. She also was “aiding and facilitating communication between the principal parties.” Those notes are the trial’s most important evidence — more important, even, than Brockman’s diary.
The goal of the direct testimony seemed to be to take the sting out of what Zilis and the plaintiff’s lawyers had to know was coming. So she told the court that her role also meant telling Altman when Musk was “in a good headspace” for a conversation — perhaps inadvertently strengthening Brockman’s testimony yesterday that at one point he feared Musk would physically attack him —while vehemently denying that she funneled information to Musk.
It didn’t work.
Look, she and Musk testified they lived together and have a romantic relationship and four kids. She was originally a plaintiff in the suit. She kept her children’s paternity secret from her own father. All of those things would be reason enough to doubt her testimony about thinking OpenAI betrayed its mission during the chaos when Altman was fired by the board. She claimed that Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said something to the effect of “we are above them, we are below them, we are around them” during that chaotic period as being “terrifying.” (The quote was “We are below them, above them, around them.”)
But the notes are really what did Musk’s case in. Try as she might, Zilis couldn’t explain them away.
There were a lot of ideas batted around in 2017 and 2018. We saw a lot of Zilis’ emails from that period. Notably in one, an option was “switch to for profit in next couple of weeks (woah fast!).” Another email noted that a “complete non-negotiable” for Altman, Brockman and Sutskever “is an ironclad agreement to not have Elon (or anyone) have absolutely [sic] control of AGI they create.” In another she wrote to Musk money manager Jared Birchall, “They say they will not move forward without a guarantee to switch away from him having control. You and I can argue that’s stupid all we want but they are holding firm on it.”
“If he hung around E perhaps it would force him to think about humanity more”
Zilis also knew about Musk halting donations before OpenAI did. On August 20, 2017, she wrote, “Funding freeze: OpenAI is likely to realize this week that their $5M in Q3 is, albeit correctly, on hold. Unsure how this will impact negotiations but wanted to flag it since it’s likely to have a big psychological impact on them if they find out.” Musk told Brockman and Sutskever over a week later, on September 1st, that he’d pulled funding.
There were other machinations:
- At one point, Musk seemed to have suggested that she, Sam Teller, and Birchall — two of Musk’s closest fixers — should all take seats on OpenAI’s board so that Musk would have control of the nonprofit. Zilis wrote to Teller that she didn’t share that with the OpenAI team.
- In November 2017, Musk was thinking of creating a “world-class AI lab” inside Tesla. To that end, Musk offered Altman a board seat at Tesla.
- Zilis wrote an email to Musk saying that to save him time she’d brainstormed some solutions for him. Three of them involved developing AGI at Tesla. One was making OpenAI a public benefit corporation subsidiary of Tesla. One was getting Altman as an “anchor” for TeslaAI.
- My favorite of those solutions was: “Find a way to get Demis. Seriously…. Demis really does fanboy hard and I don’t think he’s immoral… just amoral. If he hung around E perhaps it would force him to think about humanity more.”
- After hiring Andrej Karpathy, Musk asked for a list of top OpenAI people to poach.
We had already seen one of her text messages in the docket — the one where Musk leaves the board and she asks him whether she should remain “close and friendly” to continue funneling him information. In her direct testimony, she tried to put that in the context: “They were going through this weird half-breakup,” she said. But in the cross, we found out that she didn’t remember that in her deposition.
“Your long-lost memories have been recovered,” said Sarah Eddy, the OpenAI attorney, in one of the trial’s funnier moments. Sure, Musk’s team objected and the objection was sustained, but we all heard it. In fact, it was one of several times Zilis seemed to have recovered memories she didn’t have at her deposition, memories that — coincidentally I’m sure — happened to be good for Musk’s case.
To be fair, Zilis performed the best under cross examination of anyone we’ve seen so far, but she doesn’t exactly come across as truthful. And there was even more reason to be skeptical of her when we discovered how she left the board, which — according to her deposition — happened “because I picked up a call from Sam and he said, ‘I’ve heard Elon is starting a competitive venture’ and I said, ‘Well if that’s true, this is the time to resign.’”
Her primary allegiance was and is to Musk
Mysteriously, she had forgotten that call between the deposition and today. But she did seem to know that Musk was moving on AI when she texted a friend, who was in her phone as “Shahini Rubicon Fluffer.” (Incredible name. Thomas Pynchon will be so jealous.) “Have to resign OpenAI board btw,” she wrote. “E’s effort has become well-known.” Her friend didn’t seem surprised by the revelation. Zilis went on: “When the father of your babies starts a competitive effort and will recruit out of OpenAI there is nothing to be done.”
Zilis added that Musk “proactively apologized that he had pruned my friend network through this.”
Here’s what it added up to, as far as I am concerned: Her primary allegiance was and is to Musk. To believe she didn’t know about xAI, I would have to believe that despite their — at the time — three children and the time he spent with them every week, he never discussed it with her. I don’t believe that. Who would? There’s enough evidence in her meeting notes to suggest she routinely held back information from OpenAI on Musk’s behalf — xAI would be no different. I also don’t believe that she didn’t give Musk information about the Microsoft deals she approved while sitting on OpenAI’s board.
Musk didn’t have a problem converting the whole of OpenAI to a for-profit or kneecapping the charity by recruiting its strongest researchers. He didn’t mind the idea of subsuming it into Tesla in any of a variety of ways. The thing he did mind was not being in control of it. That’s what I took away from Zilis’ texts and emails.
Brockman and the OpenAI board were incredibly naive to allow Zilis to continue working there after learning of her twins’ paternity. But then, maybe no one expected someone so meek to be so devious. She was smart enough not to raise her voice or nitpick obvious questions during her cross-examination, so her bearing read as more trustworthy than anyone we’ve seen yet. It’s just that the overall takeaway from her written communications is that she’s put Musk first in her life. Everyone else — including, apparently, her own father — comes second. So on the stand, you might as well assume she’s saying what Musk wants to hear too.
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